making a jw dot org tv presentation?
making a liquor run for his cronies?
in hiding?
Good one, Fink.
Hey, SadElder. They tale reminds me of attending a wedding shower at a city park (Lake Atalanta, Rogers, AR) quite a few years ago. The bride-to-be's father, an elder in the Springdale cong at the time, was so drunk that two of the brothers had to grab him by each arm and escort him to one of their vehicles -- taking him home.
There were no public announcements.
but, god would never allow that today.
he's gone through a learning curve.
does god even learn?.
By today's JW standards, Solomon could find himself in the Kingdom Hall's back room, answering to some judicial committee.
'Unhappily, however, like the values of so many leaders today, Solomon’s values eventually changed. The Bible account reads: “He came to have seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives gradually inclined his heart. And it came about in the time of Solomon’s growing old that his wives themselves had inclined his heart to follow other gods; and his heart did not prove to be complete with Jehovah his God like the heart of David his father.” '—1 Kings 11:3, 4. Awake! 2003, 6/8 p. 9
Then, again -- by today's JW standards, Solomon will probably be resurrected.
'What happened to Solomon when he died? The Bible answers: “The days that Solomon had reigned in Jerusalem over all Israel were forty years. Then Solomon lay down with his forefathers, and was buried in the City of David his father.” (1 Kings 11:42, 43) Hence, it seems reasonable to conclude that Solomon is in Sheol, or Hades, from which he will be resurrected.' The Watchtower, 2005, 7/15, p. 31
Watchtower reasons his destiny based on the expression, "Solomon lay down with his forefathers".
Sounds fair to me: haul him into the back room for the practice of egregious transgressions -- then resurrect him.
but, god would never allow that today.
he's gone through a learning curve.
does god even learn?.
"Secondly how could you grant "godly wisdom" to a man who has many hundreds of concubines?"
Amen to that, Half banana.
Yet, JWs anchor their increasing light doctrine on Proverbs 4:18, a description by this alleged playboy.
Thanks, too, for that archaeological background.
horror is easily my favourite genre of movie so i just thought i'd start a thread on it.. horror can be done badly and there are plenty of crap horror movies, no doubt about that.
but horror can also be done very well, too - often on a low budget.. plus, there are quite a lot of subgenres - slasher, supernatural, monster movies, body horror, psychological horror, zombie, vampire, etc.. so, do you like horror?.
what's your favourite subgenre?.
We watched The Bad Seed last week.
"The Bad Seed is a 1956 American psychological horror-thriller film with elements of melodrama and film noir, directed by Mervyn LeRoy and starring Nancy Kelly, Patty McCormack, Henry Jones, and Eileen Heckart."
The B&W video had very good quality despite its age.
Excellent performances by all, even Jesse White, "the Maytag Repairman" -- the loneliest guy in town.
but, god would never allow that today.
he's gone through a learning curve.
does god even learn?.
Interesting research on JW polygamy, Blondie. Bragging rights to Mormons as JWs abandon polygamy some 50 years after Mormons (1897).
Whooda thunk that!
but, god would never allow that today.
he's gone through a learning curve.
does god even learn?.
"Am I missing something?"
I find it ironic that JWs based their new light doctrine on "inspired" words from a man with 1,000 wives and concubines (Solomon).
Oh, but God wouldn't find favor today with such a lech, you may say. Cuz he's set the bar higher with his more modern Christlike followers. As if he's learning.
making a jw dot org tv presentation?
making a liquor run for his cronies?
in hiding?
Making a JW dot org TV presentation?
Making a liquor run for his cronies?
In hiding?
but, god would never allow that today.
he's gone through a learning curve.
does god even learn?.
But, God would never allow that today. Or would he? Of course not. He's gone through a learning curve. Does God even learn?
jehovah's witnesses are loaded with them, from resurrection of the sodomites, the superior authorities, transplants of human organs, oral sex between married couples, etc etc.. i've been trying to think of other christian religions with contradictions, especially flip-flop flip contradictions with a return to the original doctrine.. please help me out here..
Very good research, Blondie. Thank you so much.
jehovah's witnesses are loaded with them, from resurrection of the sodomites, the superior authorities, transplants of human organs, oral sex between married couples, etc etc.. i've been trying to think of other christian religions with contradictions, especially flip-flop flip contradictions with a return to the original doctrine.. please help me out here..
I am amazed that our group of mostly former JWs has not turned up a single instance, of any so-called Christian Church that shows their church has taught a doctrine or teaching which has reverted to an original position -- flip, flop, flip.
You've done a wonderful job of showing teaching reversals -- contradictions -- but surprising to me, that's it. They mostly, if not all, have stuck to their changes.
I am amazed that we were (and they still are) actually a part of the very worst perpetrators of this practice.
Several days ago an older fellow and his wife were working our neighborhood, passing out invitations to the Memorial. As always I welcomed the opportunity to engage in conversation.
I told him, "many years ago I used to study with you people". Then, I paused.
He couldn't resist as did all of his predecessors, "What caused you to stop studying?"
I countered, "contradictions".
Well, he said, "the governing body is not perfect and they are constantly being shown new light. That means changes. And I suppose there could be contradictions as “The governing body is not perfect”.
I followed, "I can remember that the Catholic church in 1966 reversed their directive and allowed parishioners to eat meat on Fridays. Then, I can also remember Watchtower publications coming down hard on the fact that the Church had reversed itself on something that they had considered a sin."
"Fact is", I followed, "the Catholic church has had two positions on that doctrine over many centuries. Compare that with Watchtower's eleven positions on their teaching of the resurrection of the ancient Sodomites – over only 140 years."
I concluded, "I'm in no way defending Catholics here, but don't you find it strange that Watchtower plays the imperfect card when it comes to their own contradictions but never excuses other religions for theirs?"
He left with his mouth hanging open.
I wish I'd had the chance to share the following quote from a 1981 Watchtower, which denies that they'd ever had 360 degree teaching reversals.
“At times explanations given by Jehovah’s visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case.” The Watchtower (WT), 1981, 12/1 p. 27
There's a fitting phrase my kids used when they were little, "Liar, liar, pants on fire!?
I wished I could have shared the exact Watchtower pub quotes where they've changed their mind eleven times on their teaching of the resurrection of the ancient Sodomites.
Len Miller
